Doper alert–a discussion of short and long term problems with MJ

I know, all you habitues, you are offended when I propose Marijuana is not so benign as frequent users and the legalizer movement would hope.

This essay catalogues the many considerations.

The list of problems in the essay here caused by regular Marijuana use is impressive.

I am also concerned about the more potent varieties that are on the market and the impact of legalization.

And the research continues. I am not prepared to dismiss the problems by saying alcohol is worse or just as bad. Alcohol abuse and chronic alcoholism are a devastating thing and acute alcohol and mixed alcohol intoxications have negative consequences.

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11 responses to “Doper alert–a discussion of short and long term problems with MJ

  1. What is jaw dropping is how they have fought tobacco in every form for years and spared no expense or deception. Yet this same crowd of “do gooders” is pushing MJ use on everyone.

  2. I have know a few people who were hopelessly addicted to pot, and all unfailing denied they were. None of them could more than ONE DAY without smoking it.

    They also spent a LOT of money on it (after tax money). 500 or 600 dollars a month was the most common amount they spent – I have no idea where they got it from – some dealt pot to others.

  3. I would not mind if they stopped funding climate research (or planned non-parenthood) and instead funded more robust research on the effects of recreational drugs that have been illegal to research.

  4. Article at American Thinker today: “Ten Health Risks in Smoking Pot”. Many of the comments are rather pro-marijuana. I actually had not realized that the use was so widespread. I think I’m naive.

  5. It’s been around a long time. Whether it’s legal or not, just like alcohol, people are going to use it. The problem becomes a part of society. Is the response from a legal standpoint appropriate? Is a 20 year jail term appropriate for smoking and not dealing? Of course there will be people addicted. And there will also be people who will not be. The drug cartels don’t believe they are doing anything wrong, it’s just business. Ending the violence depends on legalization. Stomping out one cartel will just ensure the rise of another. I think responsible people would legalize it, tax and control it. Will some kids find ways to access it? Yes. However, the wholesale selling and distribution will end. It has been in the high and middle schools since the 1930s.

    Also, there are many big businesses that don’t want any drugs to be legalized. The profits are enormous. Take cocaine, what’s the most expensive part of producing. Labor? No. Distrubution? No. It’s the chemical needed to extract the coca from the leaves. Do you really think it’s some guy out in the jungle somewhere with a 50 gal drum? It is big business. So big that actual money doesn’t change hands. International monetary credits do.

    It is interesting that we are in Afghanistan. The best heroin was circle and star during Vietnam, followed by bear, and tiger, guess who. At the other end of the golden triangle is Afghanistan. It’s going somewhere, because production is up.

    My view is that criminalizing drugs encourages criminal behaviour. Even at the national level.

    MY is the least of the problems. Certainly not a healthy activity, but neither is drinking soda, or deep couching, overeating, not excersing, … the list is endless. Which is more additive tobacco or heroin? Tobacco, and it’s legal. Regulated, taxed, and few society problems, except for attended health from prolonged use.

    • I’m not sure replacing the violent cartel with the vastly more powerful, but a superficially less violent government cartel is not as it sounds or good as not doing drugs or enabling a cartel of any kind in the first place.

      Ending violence is part ghost cause like ending climate change and the part that’s real – prohibition creates criminals – is secondary to the issue.

      • Most definitely real during the 1930s. During prohibition. People demanded it, somebody is going to supply it. A well regulated and run government agency is much preferred to the violence that is occurring. Petty crimes, drinking and driving or driving under the influence are major problems no doubt. It’s not the best possible outcome, no drug use would be ideal, but that’s not going to happen. The current system is a self sustaining one of a war on drugs, with lots of people ending up in jail. As I said before, the only benefit of the current system is corruption, from the highest levels to the lowest. Again, when the NJ State Police haul in some guy with 3 tons of coke in car, it took a ship tanker full of chemical to make it, it took a tank farm to hold the chemical. The kicker, there is a lot more that made its way to the street. You have a better solution, I’d like to hear it. It’s a massive business. The US isn’t the only place where drugs are shipped. The current war on drugs is a failure.

  6. http://www.postindependent.com/news/crime/18447000-113/glenwood-felonies-up-36-for-year
    Above is an article on the crime rate in Glenwood Springs Colorado. The elephant in the room that the reporter fails to mention is the licensing of 5 pot shops in the downtown area. The pot panhandlers constantly harass people to the point that the area businesses are folding up shop.

    • Not unlike the pan handlers in Philly at every nominal intersection or at palmer park and academy in Colorado springs, or on Columbus Blvd in jersey city, .. it is really bad at Rittenhouse Sq in philly, really aggressive panhandlers. Of course the real religious folk support the right to be a nusiance. Talk about racketeering . Not a pot shop in sight. …

  7. Most of the crime in the U.S AND most of the accidents involve drugs or alcohol. The problem is massive and the effect on our society is devastating. It is probable that when the great American experiment fails (most likely violently) that drugs will be the primary reason. So should we try to prevent drug use?

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