Electric cars are stupid–stupid, stupid, stupid

I work on a Federal Reservation where recycling and elctric cars are promoted–boy what a waste.

http://environmentblog.ncpa.org/electric-vehicles-more-or-harm-than-good/

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12 responses to “Electric cars are stupid–stupid, stupid, stupid

  1. Scott Scarborough

    There is no truly viable way to store the electricity for an electric car. Until there is, they are a stupid idea. With a breakthrough in battery technology, the electric motor is much better, on every level, than an internal combustion engine.

  2. The NCPA, referenced in this article is not what they pretend to be. In reality, they’re owned and operated by the EPA and are very far left in that they want all old cars'”Off the road”. Because, of course, all old cars are bad. Seriously???
    Who the hell gives them or anyone else the right to demand or even suggest what amounts to the confiscation of private property!?!? I for one have a few older cars and am fighting with the insane calif. bureaucracy continually which makes up new rules at whim and forces unreasonable policies down our throats including demanding subjecting our cars to smog test requirements that the cars were never tested for when new!!! All with draconian penalties for the slightest ‘transgression’.
    My cars look good, run good, are well maintained, meaning they don’t destroy the environment except in the eyes of the enviros,and are very desirable and fun to drive. As a car buff, I am offended and highly insulted by these self appointed self-righteous Guardians Of The Universe.
    Apparently, being a responsible car owner doesn’t count. It’s an ‘old car’ and therefore is somehow evil. Nothing matters to these enviros except their junk science (hidden) agenda and the implementation of the holy U N Agenda 21. All old cars must go! Only then will we have the wonderful utopia they envision for the world!
    We have to recognize the enemy for what they are and dissolve these out-of-control bureaucracies. There are already car enthusiast groups such as the Association of California Car Clubs, SEMA and many others who need our support.
    Please, if you value your private property rights and your rapidly dissolving freedom, write to your elected Reps in Sacramento and Washington and ask them to support any legislation that will help rein in the enviro camp. Our beautiful older cars and our basic priceless freedom is at great risk. The EPA and CARB care nothing about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

  3. Scott, it ain’t the battery. We’ll get better ones, it won’t change a basic fact. You have to charge the battery. lead-acid, lithium, unobtainium, doesn’t matter. That takes power. If only a few do it, not a problem for the grid. If lots of folks do it at the same time, big problem. “Fast” charging stations like Tesla’s Supercharger just make it worse. Grid can’t handle huge swings in load. No matter what the technology, a permanent problem. Stupid indeed.

  4. Coach Springer

    Reading the article, “the environment” is the sole consideration. Disagree. Ardently.

  5. Respectfully, I disagree. After you’ve gotten good and tired of being jerked around by the highly variable (and contrived) California gas prices, a electric starts to look pretty good.

    I’m speaking from experience here. Have an electric Fiat 500 as a daily driver* in the Los Angeles beach cities, and I have never been happier. AC, sunroof, all the comforts. Its top speed – about 85 – isn’t a issue in stop and go traffic on surface streets, nor is range as I only do about 30 miles day. (It’s good for about 80-90 miles or so on a charge.) Easy to park and maneuver in tight spaces, and actually fun to drive.

    And I’m only vaguely aware of the price of gas, a price that is guaranteed to yo-yo depending on the actions of Corporate-Sociopaths-in-Suits, Corrupt-and-Callow-Politicians, Foreign Dictators and your garden variety Nut-With-A-Bomb. In other words, I’m decoupled to a degree from all the politics and market distortions that plague us all.

    Yes, I’d like a better battery and shorter charge time. (3 hrs. to full at a dedicated 240 outlet at home.) But I know that’s coming; read up on super capacitors to see what I mean.

    So calling them stupid is just a little too harsh I believe. Better to say that they’re not yet suited to all applications and to the needs of all people. That, and that they shouldn’t be forced down somebody’s throat as a one-size-fits-all solution to personal transportation needs.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    *I also have a Toyota Tacoma 4×4 TRD and a few sportscars for the weekend getaways.

  6. Reblogged this on Liberalism is Trust Fucked with Prudence. Conservatism is Distrust Tainted with Fear and commented:
    As long as China controls the rare earth metal that produces Neodymium magnet electric car is mirage.

  7. As long as China controls the rare earth metal that produces Neodymium magnet electric car is mirage.

  8. Then there’s the disposal of all those used-upped batteries. California’s power grid is a mirage, isn’t it? The power grid is all interconnected, but the self-righteous elite in California think they don’t get power from coal just because it’s not produced there. Snobs!

  9. Electric cars are a power waster. Battery chargers lose about 10% of power used to charge. Electric motors lose about 10% of battery power. Electric power grids lose some power in the system. As batteries age they lose the ability to store a charge. With electric cars it takes more power to move the same distance than internal combustion cars use. Most power is generated by power plants that emit more pollution to power a electric car 10 miles than gas cars do for the same distance..

    • Also, the latest fancy Li-ion batteries have a cycle-efficiency of only about 40% so you can’t avoid consuming at least 2.5 times the energy you actually use to drive the car…………..

      • Roger, Paul

        I am really mad that you are telling me something that is not generally known but is so essential to the debate. I also feel pretty dumb that I didn’t expect such a thing—that it could get past the smell or laugh test.

        Thanks.

        For both of you, i would like to put some buffed up comments up under the title Roger and Paul tell what yo daddy didn’t tell you about electric cars. your comments are stunning–never have i read or heard of such an inefficiency–that’s a killer and deserves special attention.

        if asked I might have guessed, but I assumed that they wouldn’t be commercially produced if they were that inefficient. My goodness.

        The physicists and engineers must be laughing at this insanity.

        Please buff it up and I will put it up as a roger paul gem. I will send you an email.

        John Dale Dunn MD JD Consultant Emergency Services/Peer Review Civilian Faculty, Emergency Medicine Residency Carl R. Darnall Army Med Center Fort Hood, Texas Medical Officer, Sheriff Bobby Grubbs Brown County, Texas 325 784 6697 (h) 642 5073 (c)

      • Roger, Paul

        I am really mad that you are telling me something that is not generally known but is so essential to the debate. I also feel pretty dumb that I didn’t expect such a thing—that it could get past the smell or laugh test.

        Thanks.

        For both of you, i would like to put some buffed up comments up under the title Roger and Paul tell what yo daddy didn’t tell you about electric cars. your comments are stunning–never have i read or heard of such an inefficiency–that’s a killer and deserves special attention.

        if asked I might have guessed, but I assumed that they wouldn’t be commercially produced if they were that inefficient. My goodness.

        The physicists and engineers must be laughing at this insanity.

        Please buff it up and I will put it up as a roger paul gem. I will send you an email.

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