Another discussion of why we didn’t prevent the death camps

I have been interested in the horrific toll of WWII, the killing fields of Eastern Europe and previously provided information on the despicable behavior of FDR.

Here is another essay addressing the question and leaving more questions. Why didn’t we impede the holocaust by at least bombing the railroads, if we were hesitant to bomb the camps themselves?

Here is a piece prompted by a Jew’s essay on his discussions of the issue with Eleanor and her admission that FDR blamed antisemitic southern politicians. What a whopper, but FDR gets a pass from the left on so much.

This is another discussion from today on options rejected and the silly excuses.


9 responses to “Another discussion of why we didn’t prevent the death camps

  1. As an interesting side note to this, the Allies DID bomb the German railroads – frequently. The strategy was flawed, however. The Allied bombing concentrated on the German railroad yards, where many miles of track were concentrated in a small area, in an effort to bet the most ‘bang for the buck’ from their bombs. The German track repair equipment was rail-carried and kept at or near the yards, and so was right on the spot to repair damage quickly using all the available equipment and labor.
    If the Allies had chosen to bomb the long lines *between* rail yards, the restriction of being able to get only one or two crews at a time working on a damaged section of track (You would have to finish one repair completely before starting the next!) would have drastically slowed the repair work. Tearing up one mile of a single track in 20 or 30 places would have taken several times longer than tearing up 3 miles of track in ONE place.
    So they DID bomb the railroads, but not very wisely.

  2. They did bomb the rail lines but when the Holocaust began they simply did not have the resources to stop it or even impede it. The first priority was always winning the war. Only by winning as soon as possible could the carnage in the camps be ended.

    I disagree with the idea that bombing the lines themselves would work except particular bridges and rail yards. The bombings during the Transportation plan for the preparation of the battlefield for the D-day in Normandy demonstrated that the heavy bombers, while effective in attacking yards, were far less effective against bridges and rail lines. Only later when the fighter bombers such as the P-47s, Typhoons were unleashed and worked at lower altitudes were such choke points being hit in adequate numbers. Even then, when under heavy stress, the Germans proved themselves to be excellent at repairing damaged lines quickly.

    And Ike had to fight hard just to get the command authority to put the transportation plan into action. Churchill was concerned about French casualties and the both the British and American Bomber commands fought it because it would cut down on their strategic missions for a time. It was one of the toughest battles Ike had to get what he thought was needed to maximize the potential for the cross channel invasion to be successful.

    Then came the threat of the German V-1s and V-2s and so once again a great deal of the Allied bombing effort was diverted to try and stop it.

    But there was one squadron of heavy bombers in the RAF bomber command that could have done a lot more damage to the Germany rail system by hitting key points in the rail system if they had been given more of such targets. That was Squadron 614 formerly the X squadron famous for the Dams raid. They did on occasion hit rail targets and proved very effective at it with their Tall Boy and Grand Slam bombs. And perhaps they could have been sent to more missions against rail targets in 1943 instead of trying to bomb canals and U boat pens and going after the Tirpitz. . But then by 1944 they too were heavily involved in going after the V-1 and V-2 sites and did wonderful work there.

  3. Sorry 614 should have been 617 Squadron. My bad!

  4. A) We REALLY didn’t know the Holocaust was going on. There had been rumors, sure, but those same rumors had turned out to be utterly unfounded in WWI. No one even thought such a thing was conceivable.

    B) It is REALLY hard to bomb railroad tracks. They are very small targets (long yes, but very narrow) that are basically nothing but thick, solid chunks of metal. You need a direct hit to do anything.

    C) It is REALLY easy to repair damaged railroad tracks. Remove the damaged tracks and sleepers, fill in the hole, lay new. Some slave laborers with shovels, a couple of guards, and maybe a journeyman engineer with a track gauge to make sure it’s all laid properly.

    D) Bomb the engines pulling the trains? Easy to damage, hard to repair? Sure. But already a priority target. We did it every opportunity we got.

    E) Bombers were not sitting around with nothing to do. Divert them to bombing tracks/camps and you are taking them from their existing contribution to the war effort- bombing the German army/industry. You extend the war and just give the Germans more time to kill innocent people.

    F) The Germans didn’t NEED the camps to carry out mass murder. They did just fine with Einsatzgruppen- retail mass murder carried out by men with guns. Even if you totally deprive them of the camps, they would just ramp up or extend the einsatzgruppen activities. The same people end up just as dead.

  5. Richard Mallett

    Why did we do nothing when Stalin starved to death 4-10 million Ukrainians in 1932-33 (which was widely reported in American newspapers) ?

    • Richard Mallett | June 29, 2015 at 4:28 pm | Reply

      Why did we do nothing when Stalin starved to death 4-10 million Ukrainians in 1932-33 (which was widely reported in American newspapers) ?

      For the same reason we did nothing when Japan invaded Manchuria. Did nothing about the rape of Nanking and the murder of millions of Chinese in the 30’s.

      The United States was not interested in going to war again. Isolationist sentiment was strong and continued to be right up until Pear Harbor was attacked.

      Roosevelt had to break the law to help the Brits survive in the meantime with sales of arms, and the Lend Lease program, and extending the escort of convoys to the central Atlantic. He stretched the definition of neutrality beyond all reasonable limits but had to temper his actions far more than he would have because of the heavy political pressure to keep the US out of another world war.

  6. Pearl Harbor.

  7. rah
    Too many excuses for Roosevelt. Remember that the USSR joined with Nazi Germany in pursuing the war and invading countries from 1939-1941. Roosevelt’s White House was enamored with the USSR so they could not take any action that would have, in effect, been fighting the Communists.
    Only when Germany attacked the USSR did Roosevelt get interested in joining the war. Stalin demanded that the US save the USSR, and that is why Roosevelt and his people finally pushed the war effort.

    • Richard Mallett

      Death by Government, by R. J. Rummel, lists the 20th. century’s bloodiest megamurderers as :-

      Joseph Stalin 42,672,000
      Mao Tse-Tung 37,828,000
      Adolph Hitler 20,946,000
      Chiang Kai-Shek 10,214,000
      Vladimir Ilich Lenin 4,017,000
      Tojo Hideki 3,990,000
      Pol Pot 2,397,000
      Yahya Khan 1,500,000
      Josip Broz Tito 1,172,000

      Obviously, the 1st. 2nd. 5th. 7th. and 9th. were Communist.

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